A Moderate Voice On Israel and the Palestinians

kohenari:

I have a guest blog post up at the Houston Chronicle's TexasSparkle blog this morning. Of course, you can also read it right here:

Over the past few weeks, extremism and violence once again escalated and finally exploded in Israel and the Gaza Strip. Space for a moderate position on the decades-old conflict shrinks at times like this, especially on the internet where partisans of each side can lash out at one another and at anyone else who doesn’t agree wholeheartedly with the purity of their side’s cause. As someone who teaches a course on Israeli politics and the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, I try to adopt what I consider a balanced position and, as a result, I tend to draw a fair amount of anger from everyone. In the past few days alone, I’ve been called a bigot and Nazi by extremist supporters of the Palestinians, and a self-hating Jew and Nazi by extremist supporters of the Israelis. I tend to view their ire as evidence that my position is a relatively balanced one.

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kohenari:

One time, Washington Post editorialist George Will read about a woman who said she was raped at Swarthmore College but it didn’t really sound like rape to him.

So he decided to write an op-ed in the Washington Post about how there probably isn’t an epidemic of sexual assault on college campus; in fact, he put “sexual assault” in quotes a bunch of times in his op-ed just to make sure we all knew that it probably wasn’t a real thing.

Then he does some math to show that the “sexual assault” numbers don’t add up.

What he’s trying to argue is that progressive values are responsible for everything that’s going wrong in higher education from the Department of Education’s plan to rate the educational product being produced at universities to trigger warnings on syllabi to all the faux “sexual assault” victimization that we’re seeing on campus these days:

It is salutary that academia, with its adversarial stance toward limited government and cultural common sense, is making itself ludicrous. Academia is learning that its attempts to create victim-free campuses — by making everyone hypersensitive, even delusional, about victimizations — brings increasing supervision by the regulatory state that progressivism celebrates.

You know who’s not delusional about victimization?

This guy:

He’s almost completely certain that you haven’t been victimized, mostly because he’s pretty sure that “sexual assault” is just a progressive canard. But also because he’s an old white guy and old white guys pretty much know everything.

Thanks, George Will. This was a really big help.

The irony:  ”Everyone is playing the victim all the time and it’s ridiculous…can’t you see it’s ruining small government and hurting me?” - George Will

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kohenari:

I had an unusually honest conversation with Breitbart columnist Sylvia Longmire on Twitter last night. If you start at the top and work your down through the tweets, you’ll see what I mean. Longmire recognizes that her position on the death penalty runs completely against pretty much everything else she believes and that she holds that position based on no facts at all.

This is what support for the death penalty in America looks like; as Sister Helen Prejean always says, it’s a mile wide and about an inch deep.

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kohenari:


Mr Kaarma, a 29-year-old firefighter, has told investigators his home had twice been hit by burglars, and he told a hair stylist he had waited up at night to shoot intruders, prosecutors said.
On the night of the shooting, Mr Kaarma and his partner Janelle Pflager left their garage door open, and Ms Pflager left her purse in the garage in order to bait intruders, she told police.
They set up motion sensors and a video monitor, prosecutors said.
When the sensors went off just after midnight and they saw a man on the monitor screen, Mr Kaarma went outside and fired a shotgun into the garage without warning several times.

In other words, Mr. Kaarma baited a trap and then shot to death the person he found in the trap … like you might if you were hunting an animal. Needless to say, he plans to plead not guilty because he was defending himself:

The state allows residents to protect their homes with deadly force when they believe they are going to be harmed, said his lawyer, Paul Ryan.

HT: Matt Langdon.

kohenari:

Mr Kaarma, a 29-year-old firefighter, has told investigators his home had twice been hit by burglars, and he told a hair stylist he had waited up at night to shoot intruders, prosecutors said.

On the night of the shooting, Mr Kaarma and his partner Janelle Pflager left their garage door open, and Ms Pflager left her purse in the garage in order to bait intruders, she told police.

They set up motion sensors and a video monitor, prosecutors said.

When the sensors went off just after midnight and they saw a man on the monitor screen, Mr Kaarma went outside and fired a shotgun into the garage without warning several times.

In other words, Mr. Kaarma baited a trap and then shot to death the person he found in the trap … like you might if you were hunting an animal. Needless to say, he plans to plead not guilty because he was defending himself:

The state allows residents to protect their homes with deadly force when they believe they are going to be harmed, said his lawyer, Paul Ryan.

HT: Matt Langdon.

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verdigris113 said: Hi there, my personal opinion of the botched execution is, I just don't care, accidents happen. But regarding execution in general. Do you believe in assisted suicide? If so, is it not hypocritical to support the ending of life for humane reasons but be opposed to ending as an act of revenge? I personally support both. Thanks for your time.

kohenari:

I’ll begin my answer to this question with a note of agreement: Accidents do happen.

In fact, when it comes to lethal injection, accidents happen 7% of the time, the most of any form of execution used since the late 1800s. We can ask, of course, whether this is acceptable error rate for our executions and some might conclude that it is. I don’t, of course, but I would also oppose the death penalty if it could be carried out perfectly every single time because I think it’s wrong to murder people and because the system itself is positively riddled with errors.

I care about this because I don’t think our government should be in the business of murdering its citizens and because I empathize with people who are suffering … even people who have done terrible things in their lives. And I care, specifically, about botched executions like the one that happened the other night because it’s a very obvious constitutional violation.

With regard to assisted suicide, I think the connection this question wants to draw is tenuous at best. It’s true that in both cases a person dies. But that’s pretty much the only similarity. It seems pretty clear that we can support the choice of a terminal patient, in chronic pain, who seeks to die with dignity without also supporting the state’s desire to strap down a healthy person against his will and pumping his body full of poison. This isn’t simply an issue of the differing motivations behind the two acts; one is a personal choice made by an individual on his or her own behalf while the other is an example of the overwhelming power of the state being brought to bear on an individual citizen.

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kohenari:

These are the concluding paragraphs of Noah Gittell’s excellent review of Captain America: Winter Soldier:

Turns out that the Nazis Steve Rogers was fighting in the first Captain America are part of a decades-long secret plot to control the world through fear; now they exist as a secret cell within the U.S. government. It’s an impressive narrative feat that folds Rogers’s old world into this new one, but it overly simplifies and ultimately obscures the real problems that the film aims to discuss. Bringing Nazis into the mix makes the film a lot more satisfying – but a lot less honest.

In fact, the forced introduction of an antiquated villain – as opposed to the topical villain of, say, Iron Man – suggests that the superhero may be losing its value as an archetype. An archetype is a way of expressing some set of cultural values, and it was reasonable to assume that the superhero movies of the 21st century were a way to express and ultimately process our post-9/11 anxieties. But the questions raised by these films must be answered in subsequent works of pop culture, otherwise they are only re-stating the problem. Winter Soldier gets us no closer to the truth.

Because it reaches into our past for a simplistic representation of evil, the film suggests that our ongoing journey towards forging a new, post-9/11 identity may be stuck in neutral, or, worse yet, going in reverse. And all of a sudden the idea of a new Marvel movie in 2028 is a frightening proposition. Will we still be figuring out how best to fight terror well into the next decade? Will the true nature of our enemy remain murky? Perhaps we need a new archetype to challenge us, instead of reinforcing the status quo. If nothing else, a $94 million opening weekend is in fact the best evidence that Winter Soldier offers no challenge to our collective values. And given the current dysfunction that is rippling through our culture – including but not limited to the federal government – that’s a serious cause for concern.

What Gittell does that I like so much is both a) to take a different view on the question of whether this new Captain America is speaking truth to power by commenting on our contemporary surveillance state and 2) tackling the question of the superhero archetype.

My own writing on heroism focuses on classical archetypes — the battlefield hero; the suffering hero; the other-regarding hero — and so I’m drawn to this second aspect of Gittell’s review. In particular, I wonder whether the superhero ever worked as an archetype at all.

As I argue in my book, one of the principal reasons the classical heroes are so interesting is that, despite their obvious excellence, they’re human like us. Throughout the Homeric epics, the poet contrasts the lives of men with the immortality of the gods in order to suggest the problem and promise of human mortality. The stakes are as high as they can possibly be for the men who fight at Troy and, because the stakes are so high, each decision they make is incredibly important.

In the Iliad, even the best warrior — one who is so like the gods on the battlefield that he can even fight with them and achieve some measure of success — is a dead man walking. We all know that Achilles is going to die at Troy … and so does he. And so, throughout my book, I argue that recognizing the limits of our existence allows us to open up a space for heroic behavior:

The most striking classical example, of course, is Homer’s Achilles, as his understanding of the limits of his existence leads to the question of the kind of life he will choose to live. In the end, Achilles chooses the fame of heroic deeds despite the recognition that doing so will lead to his untimely death.

And therein lies the problem with the superhero as heroic archetype: We all know that he’s basically indestructable. He might get beaten or smashed into a dozen buildings or launched into outer space or shot or stabbed or poisoned … but he’s going to get back up and he’s going to win. And, most of the time, he seems to know it too. In this way, there aren’t any real stakes  or choices for the superhero when it comes to doing or not doing his heroic deeds.

Can Steve Rogers be killed? I don’t know. I’m sure someone will comment and explain that he’s just stronger and faster but not actually invincible. I don’t read the comic books so my only experience with him is in three recent films where, by all accounts, the answer is clearly that he cannot die, at least by any of the means available to his enemies. What’s more, he behaves as though he can’t be killed and, as a result, he never for a moment seems to entertain questions about his life, what all the fighting is about, whether he might be better off if he settled down in some out-of-the-way place and gave up the superhero lifestyle, and the like. He’s a superhero and his job is fighting off one threat after another until the audience stops giving the producers of these films billions of dollars. Like all superheroes, his motivation is justice or doing the right thing … but there’s very depth to it, at least by comparison with the Achilles of Book IX:

Give in to Agamemnon? I think not / neither to him nor to the rest. I had / small thanks for fighting, fighting without truce / against hard enemies here. The portion’s equal / whether a man hangs back or fights his best; / the same respect, or lack of it, is given / brave man and coward. One who’s active dies / like the do-nothing. What least thing have I / to show for it, for harsh days undergone / and my life gambled, all these years of war?

[…]

Now I think / no riches can compare with being alive, / not even those they say this well-built Ilion / stored up in peace before the Achaians came. / Neither could all the Archer’s shrine contains / at rocky Pytho, in the crypt of stone. / A man may come by cattle and sheep in raids; / tripods he buys, and tawny-headed horses; / but his life’s breath cannot be hunted back / or be recaptured once it pass his lips (385-498).

That Achilles eventually enters the war again, knowing the full measure of what it will cost him, is heartwrenching. And Homer spares the reader none of it in those scenes that begin with the death of Patroclus and culminate in Achilles’ rearming for war. The depth of emotion that Homer wrings from the character as he sits by the ships can’t be matched by any superhero because, as much as they have in common, the classical battlefield hero and the contemporary superhero diverge in the most decisive respect: their humanity.

With nothing to lose, Captain America and his fellow superheroes are the most hollow sort of heroic archetype, if they can actually be considered an archetype at all.

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logicd:

eightyprovinces:

Let’s all remember that one year ago today SIX people blocked legislation which 90% of Americans wanted. Think of the frustration in these faces and all the lives lost since then.
This day should never be forgotten.

>90%

http://i.imgur.com/pfalHAN.png

http://i.imgur.com/yHOFRES.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DLU3Oxu.jpg
Also note that NJ is rank 2 according to brady campaign for its gun control laws, and that Pennsylvania is rank 10. 
>asking no gun people in almost no gun states broad questions on gun ownership
http://www.gallup.com/poll/150341/record-low-favor-handgun-ban.aspx
Some more facts because you sound stupid
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/06/25/study-using-guns-for-defense-leads-to-fewer-injuries>Citing four separate studies between 1988-2004, the assessment from the Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council says crime victims who use guns in self-defense have consistently lower injury rates than victims who use other strategies to protect themselves (other strategies include stalling, calling the police or using weapons such as knives or baseball bats).http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-12-27/how-often-do-we-use-guns-in-self-defense>Hemenway finds more reliable an annual federal government research project, called the National Crime Victimization Survey, which yields estimates in the neighborhood of 100,000 defensive gun uses per year. Making various reasonable-sounding adjustments, other social scientists have suggested that perhaps a figure somewhere between 250,000 and 370,000 might be more accurate.http://www.thecrimsonpirate.com/blog/?p=1871>The National Review Online recently published an article on the realtionship between gun control and mass murders in Europe and America. It also explores the misperception that mass murder is an exclusively American phenomenon. As it turns Europe has us beat.http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/europe-has-same-rate-of-multiple-victim-shootings-as-the-united-states/>Europe has a lot of multiple victim shootings. If you look at a per capita rate, the rate of multiple-victim public shootings in Europe and the United States over the last 10 years have been fairly similar to each other.=============No rise in mass shootingsCrime and homicide is fallingNo correlation between firearm ownership and homicide/suicideOther various shitBanning guns would not reduce murder and suicidehttp://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdfNo rise in mass shootingshttp://news.yahoo.com/no-rise-mass-killings-impact-huge-185700637.htmlGun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unawarehttp://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unawareGuns are excellent self defense toolshttp://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=18319&page=R1Mexico’s 90% Gun Supply come from the USA Mythhttp://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20110209-mexicos-gun-supply-and-90-percent-mythDOJ Study Fails to Show 1994 Assault Weapons Ban Worked http://ivn.us/2012/07/23/doj-study-fails-show-1994-assault-weapons-ban-worked/Defensive gun usage high as 1.5 millionhttp://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/WP-Tough-Targets.pdf===========>64% of gun control advocates believe the incorrect assumption that gun crime has gone uphttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/gun_control/64_who_favor_more_gun_control_believe_gun_crime_has_gone_up>53% of Americans oppose stricter gun lawshttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/march_2014/53_oppose_stricter_gun_control_laws>64% of Americans believe it would be bad if only the government had gunshttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/gun_control/64_think_it_would_be_bad_if_only_government_had_guns>62% of Americans believe that the government wouldn’t fairly enforce gun lawshttp://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/gun_control/62_don_t_trust_government_to_fairly_enforce_gun_control_laws>74% of Americans believe that the Constitution allows them to own a gun.http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/gun_control/74_think_americans_have_constitutional_right_to_own_a_gun=========Defensive Gun Use55,000-80,000 DGUs/year - David Hemenway, Chance, Vol 10, No. 3, 19971 million DGUs/year - Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology (Northwestern) 87 (1997) / Harry L. Wilson, Guns, Gun Control, And Elections: The Politics And Policy of Firearms, ISBN 0742553485, Rowman & Littlefield, 2007108,000 DGUs/year - National Crime Victimization Survey (Cook et al., 1997)250,000 to 370,000 DGUs/year - Paul Barrett (27 December 2012). “How Often Do We Use Guns in Self-Defense?”497,646 (95% CI = 266,060-729,231) DGUs/year - Estimating intruder-related firearm retrievals in U.S. households, 1994.Ikeda RM1, Dahlberg LL, Sacks JJ, Mercy JA, Powell KE. Violence Vict. 1997 Winter;12(4):363-72.==========I would like to post the official numbers from the centers for disease control and Federal Bureau of InvestigationIn 2013 there were roughly 32,000 deaths from guns.19,200 were suicides, thats 60% of what the media reports as “gun violence”960 were accidents1280 were justified homicides10,560 were actual homicidesThe FBI reports that approximately 80% of homicides are directly gang on gang violenceThat leaves 2112 in a society of 312,000,000 peopleNow lets do some basic math>You have a 0.000102564% chance of being shot>0.00000984% chance if you arent a gang member or planning on killing yourselfThe United States has a staggeringly low rate of gun violence. Period.Sauce- http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm=======15,000+ Police surveyed on Gun Control. Turns out they dont like gun control much and feel safer when citizens are armed.Articlehttp://www.policeone.com/corporate-profile/press-releases/6188461-PoliceOne-com-Releases-Survey-of-15-000-Law-Enforcement-Professionals-about-U-S-Gun-Control-Policies/PDF with all the questions asked to officers and results:https://ddq74coujkv1i.cloudfront.net/p1_gunsurveysummary_2013.pdf=======http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2012a/commsumm.nsf/b4a3962433b52fa787256e5f00670a71/5de089825c00843e872579b80079912d/$FILE/SenState0305AttachB.pdf>Upon interviewing convicted felons, these researchers found that>74% indicated that burglars avoided occupied dwellings, due to fears of being shot>57% said that most criminals feared armed citizens more than the police>40% of the felons had been deterred from committing a particular crime, because they believed that the potential victim was armed=======Gun homicide rate down 49%http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/Banning guns would not lower crime or suicidehttp://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
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The following is your chances of being killed by a knife vs a gun in a “mass shooting” vs being killed by a cop
http://pastebin.com/ZGKtmB2t
tl;dr
You are 75% more likely to get stabbed to death than killed in a random public mass shooting.
You are THIRTY-TWO times more likes to be killed by LAW ENFORCEMENT than by a random mass shooter.
0.00000396% chance of being killed by mass shooting. Or 1 / 25,253,000 chance of being a random mass shooting death
Chance of dying by a gun in general? 0.0095%
Chance of dying by a gun not including suicide that is often used to pad the numbers against gun owners? 0.0032%
What about other things?
Unintentional fall deaths
Number of deaths: 26,009
Deaths per 100,000 population: 8.4
Motor vehicle traffic deaths
Number of deaths: 33,687
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.9
Unintentional poisoning deaths

Number of deaths: 33,041
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.7
All poisoning deaths
Number of deaths: 42,917
Deaths per 100,000 population: 13.9
All Drug poisoning deaths
Deaths per 100,000 population: 12.4 (2010)
All firearm deaths
Number of deaths: 31,672
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.3
Guns?
10.3 for deaths total in general (remember how suicide was the bulk here)
Broken down
3.6 for homicide 6.3 for suicide0.30 for unintentional 0.10 undetermined
You are more likely to fucking trip and die than be killed by a gun.
Sources are FBI and CDC, just google for once.
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But please tell me more about guns and how we need to ban these dangerous evil things.

Great response.  Thoughtful and well researched.  My only quibble is that you characterize gun control in any form as a gun ban.  I think it would be more intellectually honest to call it what it is, a restriction, not an all out ban.

logicd:

eightyprovinces:

Let’s all remember that one year ago today SIX people blocked legislation which 90% of Americans wanted. Think of the frustration in these faces and all the lives lost since then.

This day should never be forgotten.

>90%

http://i.imgur.com/pfalHAN.png

http://i.imgur.com/yHOFRES.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DLU3Oxu.jpg

Also note that NJ is rank 2 according to brady campaign for its gun control laws, and that Pennsylvania is rank 10. 

>asking no gun people in almost no gun states broad questions on gun ownership

http://www.gallup.com/poll/150341/record-low-favor-handgun-ban.aspx

Some more facts because you sound stupid

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/06/25/study-using-guns-for-defense-leads-to-fewer-injuries
>Citing four separate studies between 1988-2004, the assessment from the Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council says crime victims who use

guns in self-defense have consistently lower injury rates than victims who use other strategies to protect themselves (other strategies include stalling,

calling the police or using weapons such as knives or baseball bats).

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-12-27/how-often-do-we-use-guns-in-self-defense
>Hemenway finds more reliable an annual federal government research project, called the National Crime Victimization Survey, which yields estimates in the

neighborhood of 100,000 defensive gun uses per year. Making various reasonable-sounding adjustments, other social scientists have suggested that perhaps a

figure somewhere between 250,000 and 370,000 might be more accurate.

http://www.thecrimsonpirate.com/blog/?p=1871
>The National Review Online recently published an article on the realtionship between gun control and mass murders in Europe and America. It also explores the

misperception that mass murder is an exclusively American phenomenon. As it turns Europe has us beat.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/europe-has-same-rate-of-multiple-victim-shootings-as-the-united-states/
>Europe has a lot of multiple victim shootings. If you look at a per capita rate, the rate of multiple-victim public shootings in Europe and the United States

over the last 10 years have been fairly similar to each other.

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No rise in mass shootings
Crime and homicide is falling
No correlation between firearm ownership and homicide/suicide
Other various shit

Banning guns would not reduce murder and suicide
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

No rise in mass shootings
http://news.yahoo.com/no-rise-mass-killings-impact-huge-185700637.html

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware

Guns are excellent self defense tools
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=18319&page=R1

Mexico’s 90% Gun Supply come from the USA Myth
http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20110209-mexicos-gun-supply-and-90-percent-myth

DOJ Study Fails to Show 1994 Assault Weapons Ban Worked
http://ivn.us/2012/07/23/doj-study-fails-show-1994-assault-weapons-ban-worked/

Defensive gun usage high as 1.5 million
http://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/WP-Tough-Targets.pdf

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>64% of gun control advocates believe the incorrect assumption that gun crime has gone up
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/gun_control/64_who_favor_more_gun_control_believe_gun_crime_has_gone_up

>53% of Americans oppose stricter gun laws
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/march_2014/53_oppose_stricter_gun_control_laws

>64% of Americans believe it would be bad if only the government had guns
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/gun_control/64_think_it_would_be_bad_if_only_government_had_guns

>62% of Americans believe that the government wouldn’t fairly enforce gun laws
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/gun_control/62_don_t_trust_government_to_fairly_enforce_gun_control_laws

>74% of Americans believe that the Constitution allows them to own a gun.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/gun_control/74_think_americans_have_constitutional_right_to_own_a_gun

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Defensive Gun Use

55,000-80,000 DGUs/year - David Hemenway, Chance, Vol 10, No. 3, 1997

1 million DGUs/year - Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology (Northwestern) 87 (1997) / Harry L. Wilson, Guns, Gun Control, And Elections: The Politics And

Policy of Firearms, ISBN 0742553485, Rowman & Littlefield, 2007

108,000 DGUs/year - National Crime Victimization Survey (Cook et al., 1997)

250,000 to 370,000 DGUs/year - Paul Barrett (27 December 2012). “How Often Do We Use Guns in Self-Defense?”

497,646 (95% CI = 266,060-729,231) DGUs/year - Estimating intruder-related firearm retrievals in U.S. households, 1994.Ikeda RM1, Dahlberg LL, Sacks JJ, Mercy

JA, Powell KE. Violence Vict. 1997 Winter;12(4):363-72.

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I would like to post the official numbers from the centers for disease control and Federal Bureau of Investigation
In 2013 there were roughly 32,000 deaths from guns.
19,200 were suicides, thats 60% of what the media reports as “gun violence”
960 were accidents
1280 were justified homicides
10,560 were actual homicides
The FBI reports that approximately 80% of homicides are directly gang on gang violence
That leaves 2112 in a society of 312,000,000 people

Now lets do some basic math
>You have a 0.000102564% chance of being shot
>0.00000984% chance if you arent a gang member or planning on killing yourself

The United States has a staggeringly low rate of gun violence. Period.

Sauce- http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm

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15,000+ Police surveyed on Gun Control. Turns out they dont like gun control much and feel safer when citizens are armed.

Article
http://www.policeone.com/corporate-profile/press-releases/6188461-PoliceOne-com-Releases-Survey-of-15-000-Law-Enforcement-Professionals-about-U-S-Gun-Control-

Policies/

PDF with all the questions asked to officers and results:
https://ddq74coujkv1i.cloudfront.net/p1_gunsurveysummary_2013.pdf

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http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2012a/commsumm.nsf/b4a3962433b52fa787256e5f00670a71/5de089825c00843e872579b80079912d/$FILE/SenState0305AttachB.pdf

>Upon interviewing convicted felons, these researchers found that

>74% indicated that burglars avoided occupied dwellings, due to fears of being shot
>57% said that most criminals feared armed citizens more than the police
>40% of the felons had been deterred from committing a particular crime, because they believed that the potential victim was armed

=======

Gun homicide rate down 49%

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/

Banning guns would not lower crime or suicide

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

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The following is your chances of being killed by a knife vs a gun in a “mass shooting” vs being killed by a cop

http://pastebin.com/ZGKtmB2t

tl;dr

You are 75% more likely to get stabbed to death than killed in a random public mass shooting.

You are THIRTY-TWO times more likes to be killed by LAW ENFORCEMENT than by a random mass shooter.

0.00000396% chance of being killed by mass shooting. Or 1 / 25,253,000 chance of being a random mass shooting death

Chance of dying by a gun in general? 0.0095%

Chance of dying by a gun not including suicide that is often used to pad the numbers against gun owners? 0.0032%

What about other things?

Unintentional fall deaths

  • Number of deaths: 26,009
  • Deaths per 100,000 population: 8.4

Motor vehicle traffic deaths

  • Number of deaths: 33,687
  • Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.9

Unintentional poisoning deaths

  • Number of deaths: 33,041
  • Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.7

All poisoning deaths

  • Number of deaths: 42,917
  • Deaths per 100,000 population: 13.9

All Drug poisoning deaths

  • Deaths per 100,000 population: 12.4 (2010)

All firearm deaths

  • Number of deaths: 31,672
  • Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.3

Guns?

10.3 for deaths total in general (remember how suicide was the bulk here)

Broken down

3.6 for homicide 6.3 for suicide
0.30 for unintentional
0.10 undetermined

You are more likely to fucking trip and die than be killed by a gun.

Sources are FBI and CDC, just google for once.

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But please tell me more about guns and how we need to ban these dangerous evil things.

Great response.  Thoughtful and well researched.  My only quibble is that you characterize gun control in any form as a gun ban.  I think it would be more intellectually honest to call it what it is, a restriction, not an all out ban.

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Yesterday, the internet was abuzz with the news that leaflets were posted at a synagogue in Donetsk and/or handed to several Jewish residents. The leaflets apparently told Jews they needed to register with authorities and pay a fee or risk expulsion.

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carlsagan:

Carl Sagan on giving a fuck

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kane52630:

Jaime likes pie now.

This is exactly what happen, sorry guys about the spoilerz!

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